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OTR with Brian Hart E10: Ross Gerber, Shana Sissel

Tune into Off The Record with Brian Hart on Thursday, July 23rd at 2pm ET! This live panel discussion and debate dives into the world’s first trillionaire Elon Musk & SpaceX, private credit pressure and whether it’s an opportunity or an alarm bell, and the latest Epstein updates including Leon Black’s subpoenaed return to Capitol Hill. Host Brian Hart will be joined by Ross Gerber, President & CEO of Gerber Kawasaki, and Shana Sissel, Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management.


Off The Record with Brian Hart is your monthly shot of unfiltered business talk—barstool debates with boardroom stakes. Hosted by award-winning PR strategist Brian Hart, this 1-hour livestream and podcast brings execs, entrepreneurs, journalists, and experts to break down headlines, trends, and leadership curveballs, unscripted and unredacted. Catch it live the third Thursday of every month at 2pm ET on YouTube, LinkedIn, or X, with podcasts on PodBean, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more.


No echo-chamber fluff here—just diverse takes, candid vibes, and raw discussion to jolt your workday. Tune in, share a zinger, or grab the replay for business talk with edge.

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